Levels: General Discussion

[deimos]

I'm not trying to be difficult, but it happened to me in Nysa earlier.

[Swarthy]

So if a map is 12 x 10 does that mean it has to count to 15 cubes and then come back to keep counting to fifteen if it reached 12 and only go 3?? As you know, many maps have combined cubes equaling say 9 or less!! Therefore cubes are NOT a fixed variable. It won't let you start a game unless there are 8 spawn points included in map design. So that is a set variable. Couldn't the game be coded to automatically find all spawn points and mark them so that when a player spawns it knows which spawn point is furthest from other player and spawn you accordingly? Or something like that. I'm SOOOO NOT a coder. Excuse me if I brought my clarinet to a metal concert.

[LotharBot]

[Drakona]

Um, yes, obviously that could be improved in light of the modern game.

*How* to improve it is always the loaded question. I myself kinda like spawning 2 cubes behind someone and murdering them.

[roncli]

"Used to be 5, search up to 15 segments"

When did that change get made?

[Drakona]

Before D1's original release.

[Drakona]

. . . oh, nope, I'm lying. Thought I'd seen it in the original during other research, but going back to double check I find . . .

The original D1 source I have from 1998 has the spawn distance as 5 cubes topologically / 10 cubes spatially. Not 15/15 as it is here.

D1x source from 2001, same. 5/10.

I didn't do it. There's only one other project.

So, by process of elimination, that means the 15 cube radius is almost certainly Rebirth damage.

[Swarthy]

Wow! How many DCLs would have been different scores had people not gotten the dreaded spawn kill?

[birdseye]

[Drakona]

Haha. I really thought we'd found it all. I guess that simplifies the discussion of how to fix it, though -- just put it back.